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	<title>Comments on: UrbanLabs08 [01/03]: First impressions&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Open Peer-to-Peer Design &#187; Blog Archive &#187; UrbanLabs [03/03]: space, time and methodology</title>
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		<dc:creator>Open Peer-to-Peer Design &#187; Blog Archive &#187; UrbanLabs [03/03]: space, time and methodology</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the first post about UrbanLabs, and the second one with the slideshow I presented there, I&#8217;m going to talk [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the first post about UrbanLabs, and the second one with the slideshow I presented there, I&#8217;m going to talk [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Open Peer-to-Peer Design &#187; Blog Archive &#187; UrbanLabs08 [02/03]: Slideshow for the Group A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Open Peer-to-Peer Design &#187; Blog Archive &#187; UrbanLabs08 [02/03]: Slideshow for the Group A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 17:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] After my first impressions, here is my slideshow I used on the first day of UrbanLabs. I was given the possibility to held a brief presentation before the participants in the group proposed some projects and then started to gather in order to talk about those projects. We all were not sure about presentations, because we had so little time for the groups, but I tried to give this presentation (and it was my first presentation about Open P2P Design in Spanish) in order to give the group a starting point and a direction for the projects. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] After my first impressions, here is my slideshow I used on the first day of UrbanLabs. I was given the possibility to held a brief presentation before the participants in the group proposed some projects and then started to gather in order to talk about those projects. We all were not sure about presentations, because we had so little time for the groups, but I tried to give this presentation (and it was my first presentation about Open P2P Design in Spanish) in order to give the group a starting point and a direction for the projects. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Massimo Menichinelli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Massimo Menichinelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ciao Adam,
Credo di aver letto qualche tuo post sul &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?author=54&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;blog della P2P Foundation&lt;/a&gt; e di essere passato per &lt;a href=&quot;http://ethicaleconomy.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ethicaleconomy.com&lt;/a&gt; tempo fa, però non mi sembra ci siamo sentiti prima d&#039;ora. Piacere di conoscerti quindi! :-)

Sono molto contento che tu sia interessato ad organizzare iniziative su Open/Social Innovation a Milano, di ritorno da una esperienza simile in Spagna stavo già pensando anche io ad organizzare qualcosa di simile e ne avevo accennato ad alcuni amici anch&#039;essi interessati. Penso che potremmo quindi iniziare a discuterne, per vedere quali possano essere le strade percorribili!

Incominciamo a parlarne via e-mail allora!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ciao Adam,<br />
Credo di aver letto qualche tuo post sul <a href="http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?author=54" rel="nofollow">blog della P2P Foundation</a> e di essere passato per <a href="http://ethicaleconomy.com/" rel="nofollow">ethicaleconomy.com</a> tempo fa, però non mi sembra ci siamo sentiti prima d&#8217;ora. Piacere di conoscerti quindi! :-)</p>
<p>Sono molto contento che tu sia interessato ad organizzare iniziative su Open/Social Innovation a Milano, di ritorno da una esperienza simile in Spagna stavo già pensando anche io ad organizzare qualcosa di simile e ne avevo accennato ad alcuni amici anch&#8217;essi interessati. Penso che potremmo quindi iniziare a discuterne, per vedere quali possano essere le strade percorribili!</p>
<p>Incominciamo a parlarne via e-mail allora!</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Arvidson</title>
		<link>http://www.openp2pdesign.org/2008/events/urbanlabs08-0103/comment-page-1/#comment-138</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Arvidson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ciao,

vorrei mettermi in contatto con te, sto pensando ad organizzare delle iniziative in direzione open/social innovation a Milano (ho gia parlato in proposito con Ezio)- penso che forse abbiamo già comunicato tramite Michel Bauwens, in ogni caso mandami un email
adam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ciao,</p>
<p>vorrei mettermi in contatto con te, sto pensando ad organizzare delle iniziative in direzione open/social innovation a Milano (ho gia parlato in proposito con Ezio)- penso che forse abbiamo già comunicato tramite Michel Bauwens, in ogni caso mandami un email<br />
adam</p>
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		<title>By: Massimo Menichinelli</title>
		<link>http://www.openp2pdesign.org/2008/events/urbanlabs08-0103/comment-page-1/#comment-137</link>
		<dc:creator>Massimo Menichinelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 21:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hola &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.openp2pdesign.org/blog/archives/312#comment-12778&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Esteve&lt;/a&gt;!

Thank you very much, especially for appreciating the little connected men which is a theme of debate among other designers...and therefore I need supporters! :D

About the vision of the &lt;strong&gt;designer as an enabler&lt;/strong&gt;...
Unfortunately, I don&#039;t think it is so much shared right now... Design is way to much an ego-driven discipline and with so little experience with communities so far.
On the contrary, architecture and urban planning have some experience with designing with/for communities and that&#039;s where I drew the concept of &lt;em&gt;enabler&lt;/em&gt;.

But I think it&#039;s just a matter of time...nowadays Design follows marketing, and if more companies decide to open (or crowdsource) their design activities there is a potential for Enabler Designers, as the users will be the real designers and the old Designers have knowledge and expertise that let them supervise the Design Activity of the Community (and, well, find a job!).

Of course, we will have at the same time Artist-Designers, &quot;the OId Masters&quot;-Designers, Marketing-driven Designers and also Enabler Designers; all these layer remains and new kind of designers co-exist with the older ones (as long as they&#039;re still economically viable).

An Open Design Community is still forming and slowly increasing right now, but with a great potential even if it&#039;s not so fashionable as to be seen in the Design Magazines ;-) . Moreover, with the Open Culture we see that who were interested the most on technological innovation... are the ones that made places for social innovations, so we can expect a lot of surprises!

¡Hasta pronto!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hola <a href="http://www.openp2pdesign.org/blog/archives/312#comment-12778" rel="nofollow">Esteve</a>!</p>
<p>Thank you very much, especially for appreciating the little connected men which is a theme of debate among other designers&#8230;and therefore I need supporters! :D</p>
<p>About the vision of the <strong>designer as an enabler</strong>&#8230;<br />
Unfortunately, I don&#8217;t think it is so much shared right now&#8230; Design is way to much an ego-driven discipline and with so little experience with communities so far.<br />
On the contrary, architecture and urban planning have some experience with designing with/for communities and that&#8217;s where I drew the concept of <em>enabler</em>.</p>
<p>But I think it&#8217;s just a matter of time&#8230;nowadays Design follows marketing, and if more companies decide to open (or crowdsource) their design activities there is a potential for Enabler Designers, as the users will be the real designers and the old Designers have knowledge and expertise that let them supervise the Design Activity of the Community (and, well, find a job!).</p>
<p>Of course, we will have at the same time Artist-Designers, &#8220;the OId Masters&#8221;-Designers, Marketing-driven Designers and also Enabler Designers; all these layer remains and new kind of designers co-exist with the older ones (as long as they&#8217;re still economically viable).</p>
<p>An Open Design Community is still forming and slowly increasing right now, but with a great potential even if it&#8217;s not so fashionable as to be seen in the Design Magazines ;-) . Moreover, with the Open Culture we see that who were interested the most on technological innovation&#8230; are the ones that made places for social innovations, so we can expect a lot of surprises!</p>
<p>¡Hasta pronto!</p>
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		<title>By: Esteve Almirall</title>
		<link>http://www.openp2pdesign.org/2008/events/urbanlabs08-0103/comment-page-1/#comment-136</link>
		<dc:creator>Esteve Almirall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 00:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ciao Massimo!!

Really nice to meet you in Urban Labs.

You have a nice blog, I specially like your little connected men :-)

I find very interesting your vision of the designer as an enabler, however do you think it is shared in the design community?

Ancora Grazie!

Esteve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ciao Massimo!!</p>
<p>Really nice to meet you in Urban Labs.</p>
<p>You have a nice blog, I specially like your little connected men :-)</p>
<p>I find very interesting your vision of the designer as an enabler, however do you think it is shared in the design community?</p>
<p>Ancora Grazie!</p>
<p>Esteve</p>
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		<title>By: Massimo Menichinelli</title>
		<link>http://www.openp2pdesign.org/2008/events/urbanlabs08-0103/comment-page-1/#comment-135</link>
		<dc:creator>Massimo Menichinelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 21:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;@&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.openp2pdesign.org/blog/archives/312#comment-12769&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Federico Bo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;
Grazie per la segnalazione!
In realtà conservo da parte tutti i feed del tuo blog per poterli leggere con calma...ma tra lavoro, praticamente nessuna vacanza estiva e preparazione per UrbanLabs sono proprio stato travolto dagli impegni!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;
Il progetto che segnali (e grazie per la raccolta completa di informazioni!) è davvero molto interessante! Con calma me lo studierò!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;
Tra l&#039;altro il tema dello sviluppo di servizi collaborativi per città con tecnologie &lt;em&gt;mobile&lt;/em&gt; ho avuto modo di studiarlo l&#039;anno scorso quando ero cultore della materia al Politecnico di Milano in questo corso:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.servizicollaborativi.politecalab.org/blog/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.servizicollaborativi.politecalab.org/blog/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;
che ora prosegue (ma io non vi partecipo)...in Cina!
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chita.politecalab.org/chita/index.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.chita.politecalab.org/chita/index.php&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;
Quindi prima o poi cercherò di fare il punto della situazione in un post!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;
Ancora grazie! :-)
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&lt;strong&gt;@&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.openp2pdesign.org/blog/archives/312#comment-12770&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Josep Vives&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;
Hola Josep,
el dia tiene solo 24 horas y entre Blog y UrbanLabs ya me he acostumbrado a dormir solo 5 horas cada dia...y todavia no tengo bastante tiempo! Je je je! :D
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;
Pero yo igualmente espero tu post, aunque salga despacio!
A ver si nos vemos antes del siguiente UrbanLabs, 09!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;
Fins aviat! :-)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>@<a href="http://www.openp2pdesign.org/blog/archives/312#comment-12769" rel="nofollow">Federico Bo</a></strong><br />
Grazie per la segnalazione!<br />
In realtà conservo da parte tutti i feed del tuo blog per poterli leggere con calma&#8230;ma tra lavoro, praticamente nessuna vacanza estiva e preparazione per UrbanLabs sono proprio stato travolto dagli impegni!</p>
<p>Il progetto che segnali (e grazie per la raccolta completa di informazioni!) è davvero molto interessante! Con calma me lo studierò!</p>
<p>Tra l&#8217;altro il tema dello sviluppo di servizi collaborativi per città con tecnologie <em>mobile</em> ho avuto modo di studiarlo l&#8217;anno scorso quando ero cultore della materia al Politecnico di Milano in questo corso:<br />
<a href="http://www.servizicollaborativi.politecalab.org/blog/" rel="nofollow">http://www.servizicollaborativi.politecalab.org/blog/</a></p>
<p>che ora prosegue (ma io non vi partecipo)&#8230;in Cina!<br />
<a href="http://www.chita.politecalab.org/chita/index.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.chita.politecalab.org/chita/index.php</a></p>
<p>Quindi prima o poi cercherò di fare il punto della situazione in un post!</p>
<p>Ancora grazie! :-)
</p>
<p>
<strong>@<a href="http://www.openp2pdesign.org/blog/archives/312#comment-12770" rel="nofollow">Josep Vives</a></strong><br />
Hola Josep,<br />
el dia tiene solo 24 horas y entre Blog y UrbanLabs ya me he acostumbrado a dormir solo 5 horas cada dia&#8230;y todavia no tengo bastante tiempo! Je je je! :D</p>
<p>Pero yo igualmente espero tu post, aunque salga despacio!<br />
A ver si nos vemos antes del siguiente UrbanLabs, 09!</p>
<p>Fins aviat! :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Josep Vives</title>
		<link>http://www.openp2pdesign.org/2008/events/urbanlabs08-0103/comment-page-1/#comment-134</link>
		<dc:creator>Josep Vives</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 08:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hola Massimo,

Muchísimas gràcias por participar e involucrarte en la aventura y tambien por tus generosisimas alabanzas y razonados comentarios..

Yo todavia no he podido comentarlo en mi blog.... El dia solo tiene 24 horas, tambien en la vida electrònica. :-(

Saludos, y espero verte de nuevo pronto face-to-face. ;-)

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Josep Vives Jounou

http://josepvives.cat
http://www.cibersociedad.net
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hola Massimo,</p>
<p>Muchísimas gràcias por participar e involucrarte en la aventura y tambien por tus generosisimas alabanzas y razonados comentarios..</p>
<p>Yo todavia no he podido comentarlo en mi blog&#8230;. El dia solo tiene 24 horas, tambien en la vida electrònica. :-(</p>
<p>Saludos, y espero verte de nuevo pronto face-to-face. ;-)</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
Josep Vives Jounou</p>
<p><a href="http://josepvives.cat" rel="nofollow">http://josepvives.cat</a><br />
<a href="http://www.cibersociedad.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.cibersociedad.net</a><br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
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		<title>By: Federico Bo</title>
		<link>http://www.openp2pdesign.org/2008/events/urbanlabs08-0103/comment-page-1/#comment-133</link>
		<dc:creator>Federico Bo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 08:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deve essere stato un incontro stimolante. Non so se già conosci il progetto Mit/Brescia, ne avevo parlato tempo fa sul blog: forse può essere attinente.
http://motobrowniano.wordpress.com/2008/08/31/gli-eco-cuccioli-bresciani-allevati-dal-mit/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deve essere stato un incontro stimolante. Non so se già conosci il progetto Mit/Brescia, ne avevo parlato tempo fa sul blog: forse può essere attinente.<br />
<a href="http://motobrowniano.wordpress.com/2008/08/31/gli-eco-cuccioli-bresciani-allevati-dal-mit/" rel="nofollow">http://motobrowniano.wordpress.com/2008/08/31/gli-eco-cuccioli-bresciani-allevati-dal-mit/</a></p>
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